MACVSOG

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Robert,
It’s official. I hate your damned web site. Every time I go to your web site
I wind up reading your shit. Then I read a link & read some more good shit. Damn. I hate your web site because I can’t turn away from it easily. Thanks for all of your work on it. Long after we’re dead and gone folks will be going to it, or at least our kids might. TGIF, Brother. Tilt
-RT Idaho from ‘68 thru ‘70. (John Stryker Meyers)
Barry Sadler songs. 

MSgt Roy Benavidez, USA Medal of Honor. Life-size bronze bust by Jenelia Armstrong Byrd with Valor Remembered Foundation

HONOR AT LAST FOR ROY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7968BbMnU&feature=related_

 

Memorial Section

SPECIAL FORCES PRAYER & HISTORY

Safehouse Program

Tales from SOG

SOG Photo Gallery

SOG Book List

SOG PATCHES

Letters from SOGGERS

SOG Awarded Presidential Unit Citation

SOG'S MOH

SOG MOH Print

CAVAIANI'S POW AND "PEACE COMMITTEE" EXPERIENCE

SOG Training; 

EARLY SOG

SOG: An Overview

Strategic Technical Directorate (STD)

PROJECT DELTA FORERUNNER OF SOG

TF1AE ROSTER -  JUNE 1971

RATING OF AMERICAN LED RECON TEAMS on 19 August 1971

RECON TEAM ROSTER (AMERICANS) 1970-71 & April 1971

CONGRATULATION MESSAGE TO THE OFFICERS AND MEN OF TF1AE

Command and Control Central (CCC)

SOG Aviation Support

Marine AIR ASSETS

SOG Squids and CCN Artillery

US ARMY RANGERS AND SOG

SPECIAL PROJECTS: DELTA; OMEGA; SIGMA

Colonel Healy's Lonely Hearts Club Band

CARTOONS FROM THE 5TH SPECIAL FORCES GROUP VIETNAM'S GREEN BERET MAGAZINE

PATCHES OF SOG

Operation Tailwind

OPERATION CRIMSON TIDE

HISTORY OF ST/RT DELAWARE.

SOLDIER OF FORTUNE Penetrates Secrecy Surrounding Special Operations Group In S.E. Asia June 1981

THOUGHTS FROM SPECIAL FORCES DAYS by SGM Billy Waugh

WHAT WAS THE RECON TEAM'S PURPOSE AND WHAT DID THEY DO? BY BILLY WAUGH

HICKORY RADIO RELAY

Award Citations for Project OMEGA (B-50) Operations 1966-68

COLONEL MAGGIE

The Yarborough Knife

ELDON BARGEWELL, MAJ GENERAL

Oscar 8 Target Area

MACV-SOG:  UNCOMMON VALOR, EXTRAORDINARY SOLDIERS

THE MISUSE OF THE STUDIES AND OBSERVATION GROUP AS A NATIONAL ASSET IN VIETNAM

1968 PAY SCALE

SOG and SF ONLY ARMY UNITS TO AWARD BATTLEFIELD COMMISSIONS

The Original Green Beret

SOG PHONIES (WANNABE'S HALL OF SHAME)

SOG WANNABE BULLSHIT CONTEST

SOG/SF CONTRIBUTION TO HURRICANE RITA

JFK Special Warfare Museum

EARLY SPECIAL FORCES

SOG CCN'S RECON RING

SOA Ring

A Letter and Response

TRAVEL TO VN, MAY 2010 REPORT

Special Operations Association (SOA)

The CIDGs

PLAF RECON   TRAINING-LIBERATION ARMY CAMP

 

 

 

 

 

 

Islam, learn what is at stake!

Anti-Anti War Protest

Sir, I was looking at some of the MIA info of one of "my" team leaders (Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver) this afternoon and came across the SOG website.  I haven't taken the time to go through everything yet but trust I will.  I was one of those aviators that supported the SOG operations.  I was a 20 yr old aircraft commander with the 119th AHC slick driver.  We flew out of FOB II
 staging mostly from Dak To.  I flew inserts, extracts, string extracts, deception inserts, virtually everything needed to keep the missions going. I learned so much from my short 120 assignment with SOG.  I later flew with
 the 57th Assault Helicopter Company (based in Kontum), that had the honor of
 being the dedicated helicopter support unit for FOB II.  I have tried to practice what I learned about courage, loyalty, faith, honor, selflessness,
 keeping your word to your comrades though it could mean your own life, and the willingness to do whatever is necessary to do the job.  I have tried to
 instill these traits in my children.  I am humbled to this day by what I saw each and every day of my assignment there.
     Your comments about us drivers and our crews are appreciated.  I for one know however that yours was the far greater hazard and sacrifice.  I have
 always been proud of the work I did in RVN.  In 2 tours I logged more than 3000 hours combat time.  In each of my tours my best moments were always when I was getting the guys out of the sh..., or bringing in some mail and maybe a beer.  Compared to you and every regular grunt who humped a ruck in
 the bush I was just another REMF.  God Bless, lets get our POW's, MIA's, and
 our fallen brothers back.  My flight school roomie, Chuck  Osterman was shot
 down and killed (after hostilities ended) as part of the program to bring our dead home.  I have numerous aviator friends who are among the missing and presumed dead, too many.  I for one want a full accounting. Thanks for helping keep the fight for accountability going on, Respectfully,
 
 Richard C. Olson
 CW-4, USA Retired
 Nov 1965 - Jun 1987
 RVN 2/67 - 3/68
 RVN 11/70 - 11/71
 

The above pic was at a Washington, DC protest against protesters, 2009

MACV-SOG

Military Assistance Command Vietnam - Studies and Observation Group

You have never lived until you have almost died. For those who have fought for it,
life has a special flavor the protected will never know.

(My Zippo had a SOG crest on one side and the above words on the reverse side -- the only difference was that in place of the five words in have underlined above was: "FREEDOM HAS A FLAVOR"-Lewis Arnold, CCS '70 - '71

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TO LISTEN TO GEORGE JONE'S 50,000 NAMES ON THE WALL

TRIBUTE TO SOG U-TUBE VIDEO

MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam - Studies and Observation Group) was an unconventional warfare task force engaged in highly classified operations throughout Southeast Asia. The U.S. Army's Special Forces (Green Berets), Air Force Combat Controllers, Navy SEALs and other units channeled personnel into MACV-SOG through Special Operations Augmentation (SOA), which provided their "cover" while under secret orders to MACV-SOG. The teams performed deep penetration missions of strategic reconnaissance and interdiction which were called, depending on the time frame, "Shining Brass" or "Prairie Fire" missions.

Bob Noe is a good friend of mine, who I met when stationed at Fort Polk, LA.  A few months ago I passed him some photos of the Green Beret
exhibit on display in the JFK Presidential Library in Boston, MA.  I took these photos when I was vacationing there this past summer (2004). Greg Metzgar

Please E-Mail Robert Noe (CCN 69-70) for any information. Click "here" to send email.

Young man, young man, what do you wannabe?

Wanna grow up and sit around and drink beers with FOGs and call the Green Beret a "beanie"?  It's easy. Be ready to do 50 pushups in a row. Then 20 chinups without a break. Before you start. Chug 20 miles with serious rucksack on your young bod. Now, enlist in the US Army (preferably Airborne Ranger option). Get a set of genuine paratroop wings affixed to your chest first. A Ranger Tab will help, too.  Do a few years and earn a few stripes with the 82nd Airborne Division, the Rangers, one-oh-worst, whatever. Prove your mettle in the conventional military first. Then go to SFQ. You've now had a few years to decide where you're going to fit best; weapons, commo, medic, or engineer. This is where you start.  BTW, re-enlist at this point.  Then pass the SFQ and spend a couple of years on an operational team. You will get to know them as well as your own family. The eleven of them will know you this well, too. Be prepared ('cause this is what you're gonna do) to face down the 99th Mongol Horde Regiment in the pitched black of a jungle/desert night when the weather's bad, there ain't no air support, accompanied by two other Americans and leading 100 totally terrified local natives. If this is what you really want to do with your life, enlist now. Otherwise, respect the men who did this to protect your freedoms. (Note, don't remember who sent this to me)

Warning Notice: If you are not Special Forces Qualified, have not served with Special Forces, did not serve with SOG, don't claim this status as you will be exposed in our website's "PHONY WANNABE'S Hall of Shame."--We consider you as  the lowest scumbags on earth, a thief stealing the valor of others. Your families and friends will be shocked and ashamed when they discover your deception. In the past number of years, I have had to tell many wives, children, grandchildren, other relatives, and friends of the fraudulent status of these individuals, some at the time of their deaths or thereafter! What a legacy of shame to leave them.RLNoe

MACV-SOG

Military Assistance Command Vietnam - Studies and Observation Group

''We held the line. We stopped the falling of the dominoes,'' ... ''It's not that we lost the war militarily. The fact is, we as a nation did not make good our commitment to the South Vietnamese.''  See Anti-War's Unintended Consequences  William C. Westmoreland, 1985 @ 173rd Abn Bde Anniversary and VIETNAM WAR INTERVIEW, COL BUI TIN, COL, NVA & THE ANTIWAR MOVEMENT MGen Jack Waggener USA ret wrote:
The Vietnam Redux At last, General Giap has published his memoirs and confirmed what most Americans knew. The Vietnam war was not lost in Vietnam -- it was lost at home. It exposes the enormous power of a biased media to cut out the heart and will of the American public.General Giap was a brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military.The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war memorial in Hanoi: "What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it,
and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media were definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

TRIBUTE:

You know, I am constantly reminded of how “worthless” SF troops are.  Starting with General Abrams and his pack at MACV.  As an Air Force E-6 in MACSOG in 1972, I was aware of the following: 

  1. The numbers, location and strength of each NVA division in South Vietnam
  2. What that unit’s actual designation was in the NVA
  3. Names and ranks of the major commanders
  4. When that division left North Vietnam, approximately how much they lost in the movement south and where they staged prior to entering South Vietnam
  5. How many and type of tanks they had
  6. When they planned to attack (April 1, 1972)

 All of this information had been collected mainly by those “worthless” SF recon teams at CCN, CCC and CCS.  Well any way, it must have been worthless, because General Abrams and his “Staff” choose to entirely ignore it. I remember the day the attack started and they said, “Oh my, where did all of these people and equipment come from?  We are totally surprised.”  My ASS!!!  Thank God for U.S. Army Special Forces and if I ever have to go to war again, please Lord let me be surrounded by them.

Don Williams, SMSgt, USAF Retired' MACVSOG 60, April 24, 2008

This is the Prayer of the U.S. Army's Special Forces.  This image containing the prayer was printed on the back of the 5th Special Forces Group's 1999 Christmas Formal program-CLICK ON THE PICTURE FOR ENLARGEMENT

"Whoever does not have the stomach for this fight.  Let him depart.  Give him money to speed his departure, since we wish not to die in this man's company.  Who ever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself every year on this day.  Show his neighbor his scars and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.  These stories will teach his son, and from this day until the end of the world, we shall be remembered, we few, we band of brothers for whoever has shed his blood with me shall be my brother, and those men afraid to go will think themselves, lesser men as they hear of how we fought and died together.."
Shakespeare, "Henry V"

 

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